{"id":4399511,"date":"2022-03-22T12:28:31","date_gmt":"2022-03-22T12:28:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.mistservices.co.uk\/timetabling\/?p=4399511"},"modified":"2022-03-22T17:58:56","modified_gmt":"2022-03-22T17:58:56","slug":"subject-codes-and-importing-into-arbor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mistservices.co.uk\/timetabling\/subject-codes-and-importing-into-arbor\/","title":{"rendered":"Subject codes and importing into Arbor"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; admin_label=&#8221;Blog Hero&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.10.6&#8243; background_color=&#8221;#00AEEF&#8221; use_background_color_gradient=&#8221;on&#8221; background_color_gradient_start=&#8221;rgba(0,0,0,0)&#8221; background_color_gradient_end=&#8221;rgba(0,0,0,0)&#8221; background_blend=&#8221;multiply&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;19px|0px|18px|0px||&#8221; animation_style=&#8221;slide&#8221; animation_direction=&#8221;top&#8221; animation_intensity_slide=&#8221;2%&#8221; 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